If the Switch Version Comes Later...

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If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Lozjam » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:16 am

So, obviously we don't know if the Switch version will come out later than the other consoles. Who knows, Playtonic might be good with this and Yooka Laylee will be on the Switch with all of the other consoles, so that Nintendo fans, their biggest supporters, won't be left out....

However, I think it's likely that the Switch version will come later.... Leaving their biggest fanbase in the dust. To me at least, it's not disappointing that the Wii U version was cancelled, more so that a Nintendo port of a game, is yet again delayed. So I think Playtonic really needs to make it up to their Nintendo fans if this is the case.

I think Playtonic really will need to give Nintendo fans a bone, and give Yooka Laylee some exclusive content(or a timed exclusive). Perhaps they could give the Switch version it's DLC before the other consoles.... Either way, they really need to make it up to Nintendo fans somehow. Those on XBO, PC, and PS4 will be enjoying their game, while Nintendo fans will either be spoiled, or have to shun talk about this game for perhaps months.

Playtonic PR(or at least Andy), has said that Playtonic has a true fondness and heritage with Nintendo.... If they are going to disappoint Nintendo fans, then they at least need to make it up to us. Otherwise, I really think this talk about heritage means absolutely nothing.

So what do you guys think? What do you think Playtonic could do to make up for a potential delayed Switch port?

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby WyvernWings » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:07 am

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You guys ever thought that maybe the game was delayed from Q1 to Q2 (11th of April), simply because of the Switch version? Maybe Playtonic actually wants to release on all systems on the same day after all, which is why it was delayed to Q2. Who da thunk it?!

Anyway, Playtonic compensating Nintendo fans with exclusive Switch content would be really unfair to every other Nintendo fan who already has another system to play Yooka Laylee and might not afford/want a Switch at this moment.
And what about backers who pledged for a non-Nintendo version? Would they get this exclusive content too?

Console exclusive content, timed or not, is a recipe for disaster and is utterly despised throughout the gaming community. Putting such a thing in the Switch version just to appease Nintendo fans in case of a delay happening is not fair to non-Nintendo players, and is really something a contemptuous Triple-A publisher can afford do.

Kickstarter backers are getting DLC for free after the game comes out. That should honestly be enough for compensation.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Lozjam » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:49 am

WyvernWings wrote:Image

You guys ever thought that maybe the game was delayed from Q1 to Q2 (11th of April), simply because of the Switch version? Maybe Playtonic actually wants to release on all systems on the same day after all, which is why it was delayed to Q2. Who da thunk it?!

Anyway, Playtonic compensating Nintendo fans with exclusive Switch content would be really unfair to every other Nintendo fan who already has another system to play Yooka Laylee and might not afford/want a Switch at this moment.
And what about backers who pledged for a non-Nintendo version? Would they get this exclusive content too?

Console exclusive content, timed or not, is a recipe for disaster and utterly despised throughout the gaming community. Putting such a thing in the Switch version just to appease Nintendo fans in case of a delay happening is not fair to non-Nintendo players, and is really something a contemptuous Triple-A publisher would do.

Kickstarter backers are getting DLC for free after the game comes out. That should honestly be enough for compensation.

Releasing a Switch version well after the release date of other consoles(like the scenario I presented above) is still horribly unfair.

The fact is that we do not know that the Switch version is coming along same day with other systems. I am just saying that Nintendo fans should deserve some compensation because Playtonic(through apparently no fault of their own) kind of screwed them over. If the Switch version of the game is delayed, then Playtonic has screwed them over twice. They cancelled the version of the game that people paid for, and delayed the Switch version(if it is delayed over other releases). I mean, Playtonic really needs some form of compensation because they are screwing over the fans that made this project possible in the first place, and took it to such well funded heights.

So, if exclusive content isn't the answer, then what is? Saying "I'm sorry your game has been out for X months to be spoiled, but now you have it bye." I mean, that is what a normal company would do, but that is still very crappy of them.

I really do want Playtonic to succeed for the future. But as apparent, they have really hurt their Nintendo fanbase regardless. I know they did everything they can for the Wii U version. That's that, but they really need to make amends with something truly exciting for the switch. Releasing a game that's been out for half a year, and being an inferior version of the game(like the Wii U's support) has been all too common. If this happens to Yooka Laylee on Switch, this is not going to turn out well both for the fans and for Playtonic.

But hey, if they do make it at launch for all three systems. That would be fantastic. I would applaud Playtonic for their dedication and work. But if they can't make it in time, I think some compensation for Nintendo fans have to be made. Especially since Playtonic did not meet their promises for the prior Nintendo console.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Exaskryz » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:16 am

The way to make amends with the Nintendo population is to give them the game on time. Hell, for all this trouble, it should be the best version by far from a graphics and performance standpoint.

But exclusive content? Hellllll no. Never should there be exclusive content between versions. Thus people are buying an incomplete game, just like what happens when DLC comes out.

Not that it'll overall matter to me as I don't plan to get the Switch until 2018 anyway. And that moves Yooka Laylee into the "maybe..." category. We'll see how Playtonic ends up treating Nintendo fans. I anticipate they'll keep getting the short end of the stick, and then no stick at all, in a few years.
Woaaaah, it finally came out! :o

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby WyvernWings » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:54 am

Lozjam wrote:Releasing a Switch version well after the release date of other consoles(like the scenario I presented above) is still horribly unfair.

We still don't know if that will happen yet. Let's wait 'till we hear more details about the Switch in January.

Lozjam wrote:If the Switch version of the game is delayed, then Playtonic has screwed them over twice.

The game would still be coming out though, unlike the Wii U version. Now if the Switch version was also cancelled, that would be "Unfair", understandably so.

Lozjam wrote:I mean, Playtonic really needs some form of compensation because they are screwing over the fans that made this project possible in the first place, and took it to such well funded heights.

Again, everyone who pledged to the game is getting future DLC for free. That and the rest of Kickstarter rewards as well (if they come). That should be compensation enough. They might even get the game a month early or something. A lot of Kickstarter games do that, so just putting it out there.

For any Nintendo fan who didn't back the project? I dunno. Make an Amiibo or something. They seem to like those.

Exaskryz wrote:The way to make amends with the Nintendo population is to give them the game on time.

Pretty much.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Piet » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:53 pm

I agree that a later release on the Switch would be another let down for Nintendo gamers and IF this is the case,
THEN I agree that Nintendo backers should get/receive something to make up for that.

I said 'IF' because nothing is announced yet, but this wouldn't be a pretty list if you ask me:
- Wii U version cancelled;
- No Toybox for Nintendo gamers;
- Later Switch release.

Let's just wait for Playtonic's next announcement. :)

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Scrubber » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:49 pm

I think the switch version could well release with the rest. The delay could be a sign of this.

Also NO console exclusive content. Just no.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Piet » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:31 am

Scrubber wrote:I think the switch version could well release with the rest. The delay could be a sign of this.

Also NO console exclusive content. Just no.

I also think console exclusive content isn't the solution (barring Amiibo).
Let's just hope that the Switch version releases alongside the other versions or let's wait for Playtonic's compensation. :)

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Scrubber » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:15 am

I'll be buzzing if the switch version coincides with the rest cause I'll be changing my pledge to a physical switch version asap.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby DarkTone » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:16 pm

I agree on the exclusives. Shame for Wii U backers but it will mean even less people are pleased with the game as a whole.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby CHAINMAILLEKID » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:02 am

Eh, If they handle the port themselves, and design the game to take best advantage of the systems features, than thats enough for me.

Extra content? meh.
Make the game work well with the system? worth a bit of a wait.
Switch can do a lot it seems, just take advantage of some of those unique bits, and you have a better game.

Though, I'm really not too worried.
Switch is supposedly really easy to port to, and it supports unity so...
Even if it does come later, it shouldn't really be a wait.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Piet » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:33 am

CHAINMAILLEKID wrote:Eh, If they handle the port themselves, and design the game to take best advantage of the systems features, than thats enough for me.

Extra content? meh.
Make the game work well with the system? worth a bit of a wait.
Switch can do a lot it seems, just take advantage of some of those unique bits, and you have a better game.

Though, I'm really not too worried.
Switch is supposedly really easy to port to, and it supports unity so...
Even if it does come later, it shouldn't really be a wait.

I understand what you are saying here, but I'd still find it pretty disappointing if the Switch version get's released later than the other versions...

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby CHAINMAILLEKID » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:16 pm

Piet wrote:
CHAINMAILLEKID wrote:Eh, If they handle the port themselves, and design the game to take best advantage of the systems features, than thats enough for me.

Extra content? meh.
Make the game work well with the system? worth a bit of a wait.
Switch can do a lot it seems, just take advantage of some of those unique bits, and you have a better game.

Though, I'm really not too worried.
Switch is supposedly really easy to port to, and it supports unity so...
Even if it does come later, it shouldn't really be a wait.

I understand what you are saying here, but I'd still find it pretty disappointing if the Switch version get's released later than the other versions...


It will take a lot to dampen my enthusiasm that we're getting another high caliber Rare style game from many of the original creators.

The whole thing still comes off as surreal.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Exaskryz » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:05 pm

CHAINMAILLEKID wrote:Eh, If they handle the port them


Let's remember that Playtonic themselves were developing the Wii U version and failed at it. Are we sure that we really want them developing for the Switch version by themselves?
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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby GeneralWalnut » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:21 pm

Exaskryz wrote:
CHAINMAILLEKID wrote:Eh, If they handle the port them


Let's remember that Playtonic themselves were developing the Wii U version and failed at it. Are we sure that we really want them developing for the Switch version by themselves?

Yes, since that stuff is almost entirely unrelated to the Switch version. The Wii-U is an under-powered platform with a processing architecture that basically only it uses and that Unity never got along with. Considering the size of the team at Playtonic I don't think it reflects negatively at all on their ability that they were unable to get the game working there.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Meinhard1 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:15 pm

Really, venting ones frustratations on an online forum may not be the worst idea.

However "Playtonic are incompetent and untrustworthy" seems a generalization based on very little information.

"Real but not true" is a useful distinction. To feel everything Playtonic
has gone sour -- a real feeling that you experience, but is this belief actually true?

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Exaskryz » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:32 pm

GeneralWalnut wrote:
Exaskryz wrote:
CHAINMAILLEKID wrote:Eh, If they handle the port them


Let's remember that Playtonic themselves were developing the Wii U version and failed at it. Are we sure that we really want them developing for the Switch version by themselves?

Yes, since that stuff is almost entirely unrelated to the Switch version. The Wii-U is an under-powered platform with a processing architecture that basically only it uses and that Unity never got along with. Considering the size of the team at Playtonic I don't think it reflects negatively at all on their ability that they were unable to get the game working there.


I think it does. They managed to get amazing games working on N64 hardware. Why not on Wii U hardware? Some of their talent was lost developing only for the Xbox/360/One.
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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Piet » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:30 am

What worries me atm; They hired 2 new guys and 1 of them seems to be a handheld specialist.
IF this has something to do with the Switch version (hence the handheld part), then they are really late to the 'porting party'!
Because if they only start porting it to the Switch NOW, then (I guess) they will never manage to launch the game simultaneously on the Switch.

--> This is an 'IF' scenario and not a fact!

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Scrubber » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:17 am

Piet wrote:What worries me atm; They hired 2 new guys and 1 of them seems to be a handheld specialist.
IF this has something to do with the Switch version (hence the handheld part), then they are really late to the 'porting party'!
Because if they only start porting it to the Switch NOW, then (I guess) they will never manage to launch the game simultaneously on the Switch.

--> This is an 'IF' scenario and not a fact!

I was also wondering why they hired a handheld expert. Kinda hoping they just want a larger team for their next project.
We have to wait till the end of the month for any news.

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Re: If the Switch Version Comes Later...

Postby Piet » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:32 am

Scrubber wrote:
Piet wrote:What worries me atm; They hired 2 new guys and 1 of them seems to be a handheld specialist.
IF this has something to do with the Switch version (hence the handheld part), then they are really late to the 'porting party'!
Because if they only start porting it to the Switch NOW, then (I guess) they will never manage to launch the game simultaneously on the Switch.

--> This is an 'IF' scenario and not a fact!

I was also wondering why they hired a handheld expert. Kinda hoping they just want a larger team for their next project.
We have to wait till the end of the month for any news.

End of the month?? I thought during the upcoming Switch presentation!


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