Orchestral Track

Discussion and feedback for Playtonic's debut game, platformer adventure game Yooka-Laylee!
Jellyfunk
Posts: 558
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:00 am

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Jellyfunk » Mon May 04, 2015 12:16 am

Does this make Super Mario Galaxy sound better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suym8mMbYew

User avatar
wwwarea
Posts: 71
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 7:06 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby wwwarea » Mon May 04, 2015 12:20 am


Jellyfunk
Posts: 558
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:00 am

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Jellyfunk » Mon May 04, 2015 12:27 am

What about the people who prefer rock music? Jazz? Techno? Dubstep? Where are those options? I say let Playtonic do what they want to do. If you don't like it, well, you just need to deal with it. If they do add an option, then good. But that's only because they wanted to do it.

User avatar
wwwarea
Posts: 71
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 7:06 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby wwwarea » Mon May 04, 2015 1:09 am


Jellyfunk
Posts: 558
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:00 am

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Jellyfunk » Mon May 04, 2015 1:35 am


User avatar
rocho
Posts: 377
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:36 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby rocho » Mon May 04, 2015 2:02 am

I loved the 2 samples that are available right now, I think that if that is orchestrated it feels amazing!

If we are getting LIVE orchestrated, then I think the quality will be better.



I have a question, the composers have to do the orchestrated tunes first before doing the LIVE orchestrated right?

If this is true, then I don't see the problem on adding both versions to the game, there could be a toggle in the settings to turn Live Orchestrated on or off. I personally think that will add a lot of REPLAY VALUE to the game, you could play the entire game in one music style and replay it with another. :D

wozza
Posts: 2
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 2:41 am

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby wozza » Mon May 04, 2015 2:46 am

I would like to add that I want the music to feel like the old themes, and not anything like nuts and bolts :)
Long Time Rare Veteran

User avatar
travisschultz95
Posts: 192
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:16 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby travisschultz95 » Mon May 04, 2015 3:11 am


User avatar
wwwarea
Posts: 71
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 7:06 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby wwwarea » Mon May 04, 2015 3:20 am


User avatar
travisschultz95
Posts: 192
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:16 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby travisschultz95 » Mon May 04, 2015 3:25 am

Proving constructive feedback, and simply saying "this isn't what I wanted do it the way I prefir," (as soon are saying) are different.

User avatar
wwwarea
Posts: 71
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 7:06 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby wwwarea » Mon May 04, 2015 4:55 am


User avatar
Rueckkoppler
Posts: 1126
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:22 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Rueckkoppler » Mon May 04, 2015 11:04 pm


Jellyfunk
Posts: 558
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:00 am

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Jellyfunk » Mon May 04, 2015 11:12 pm

That's not really a good comparison.

The second one has more realistic samples, but they're still samples. It also runs into the problem of being drowned in too much reverb.

There is something really magical about using a live orchestra over samples. There are little details that aren't captured in samples.

That's why I'm excited for the next stretch goal.
Last edited by Jellyfunk on Mon May 04, 2015 11:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Rueckkoppler
Posts: 1126
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:22 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Rueckkoppler » Mon May 04, 2015 11:17 pm


User avatar
moritasan2040
Posts: 37
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:51 am

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby moritasan2040 » Mon May 04, 2015 11:45 pm

Here's a better example of how a song can sound going from N64-style MIDIs to fully orchestrated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB-WvKoBZgA (Final Battle)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZhzuibmEpQ (Catch the Witch)

However, it's not a one for one conversion from N64-style to orchestra (nor is it the full song). But it's still a better example that the previous one.

And all that is irrelevant anyways. You need to remember that going from something like NES-style chiptunes to orchestra, or N64-style MIDIs to orchestra, is NOT the same as going from high quality instrument samples to orchestra. In the case of Yooka-Laylee, most people wouldn't even be able to tell for sure if a song they hear is made with samples or real instruments, so really this is a non-issue. The people who are complaining are only doing so becuz they lack information. But honestly, this talk of MIDIs is silly. Even if they didn't use live instruments, they will still sound like it, and if you're expecting N64-like sounds, you won't get them. There would be so little difference between the two versions that it would literally serve no purpose to include both.

User avatar
wwwarea
Posts: 71
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 7:06 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby wwwarea » Mon May 04, 2015 11:51 pm

Not all Orchestral feel more magical though.
For example:
Grant's music for this game sounds amazing, and I couldn't stop listening to it.

If an Orchestral were to replace it, and replaced every calm and catchy thing with rough, and more less perfect patterns, then I would of lost all the magic and feel for it..
Besides, I thought it was about 'real instruments'? That music may be a sample maybe but it still uses high quality instruments and that's probably all that matters for 'real' fans. The pattern and calm perfectness doesn't need changing in my point of argument. :) - I don't know why some think that if it's 'samples' it means "low" or "bad" all of a sudden? It's like people want to make sure patterns to be more random or something which not many people would want. Haha
Hmm do you guys like the Grant's theme for the jungle a lot?



As for the Youtube videos. I think the Orchestra sounds a little better, but like I said it depends. :)
The only thing in it is that it's a bit messy in some parts and.. yeah but it seems cool.

Jellyfunk
Posts: 558
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:00 am

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Jellyfunk » Mon May 04, 2015 11:57 pm

I have my own set of orchestral samples and no matter how hard I try to imitate a song, the real orchestra stomps all over it.

Jellyfunk
Posts: 558
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:00 am

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Jellyfunk » Tue May 05, 2015 12:00 am


User avatar
Rueckkoppler
Posts: 1126
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:22 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby Rueckkoppler » Tue May 05, 2015 12:17 am


User avatar
wwwarea
Posts: 71
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 7:06 pm

Re: Orchestral Track

Postby wwwarea » Tue May 05, 2015 3:02 am



Return to “Yooka-Laylee”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests

cron