Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby GeneralWalnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:46 pm

free speech isn't "say whatever you want with no consequences." I'm glad he was removed, frankly didn't want him there in the first place. Sure some people throw a little tantrum about it but the net amount it actually impacts sales will almost certainly be just about zero (or even a net positive, considering it is getting a fair amount of publicity)

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Why does Playtonic discriminate against political opinions?

Postby ranae » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:15 pm

I don't agree with Jon's views either, but he doesn't deserve to get removed after already putting the work in just because you lads disagree with him. His politics have nothing to do with voice acting and nobody would have associated his views with Playtonic anyways.

It seems busybody journalists who won't even play Yooka-Laylee have pressured you into this. Sad to see that Playtonic is going to be yet another company who caves in to journalists regardless of what the fans want. Please reconsider.

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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby TheAnvil » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:41 pm

Had to sign back into the forum to register my disgust at this decision to pander to PC SJWs. While I will still buy the game, this is a stupid decision on every level.

Firstly, this is a VIDEO GAME. Leave politics out of it.
Secondly, it's a dick move to cut the guy after he helped promote the game. Tossing someone aside because of their political opinion doesn't make you progressive, it makes you ignorant. Holding conservative opinions does not make you evil.
Thirdly, it's a terrible business decision. They have potentially alienated as many as 3 million potential customers. Customers who Jon would have probably promoted the game further to.
Additionally, it's a blatant attack on free speech, beyond JonTron's fans, Playtonic have alienated potential fair-weather fans who won't support a company who attack free speech.

A ridiculous decision. Playtonic have made themselves the bad guys here.
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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby PORKSLOPE » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:50 pm

I created this account specifically to post this. Playtonic's decision to drop Jon was a cowardly and pathetic decision based on emotions and political views. It disgusts me that more and more game companies are pandering to this free speech hating demographic of crazy people. This is petty and wrong. You have lost a sale, Playtonic.

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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby b101 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:03 pm

As someone who backed this project I am extremely disappointed. I made an account just to let playtonic know.

Jontron has certain views, I disagree with him. That is not a reason to single him out like this. He has the freedom to believe what he wants, I have the feeling if he was on the other end of the political spectrum there would be no such removal.

All you have managed to do is anger fans, I regret helping this project and won't be helping any in the future. Well done for scaring the return of 3D platformers with political nonsense.
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Postby DarkTone » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:04 pm

Kotaku? Seriously?

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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby Scraps69 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:26 pm

I think the sentiment "freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence" really applies here.

Really you've all seen the break down of relationships on either side of the political spectrum resulting in an exclusion to a project. This is no different and does not reduce the validity of the work.

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Re: Why does Playtonic discriminate against political opinions?

Postby Rasmusic » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:39 pm

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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby wwwarea » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:50 pm

I know a company has every right to fire someone from their job unless it violates discrimination laws and/or other laws, but that doesn't mean they can't be criticize. Freedom of Speech may have consequences (some people use that as an excuse to be hypocritical) but the reaction to it also has it too and a lot of people seem to forget that.

As for Playtonic, I am not sure if it's a very good reason. If JonTron wasn't intending to cause a negative anti-equal effect, then I think it's stupid.
I probably wouldn't be allowed in probably because I have some very VERY serious opinions about life imprisonment punishments, (Hint: I'm against it, but I'm not asking for an argument here) for example. And speaking of that.. I guess it's not silly for companies to fire everyone because after all, nobody will have the same opinion in the end.
Why can't they just make a "Does not reflect anyone's opinion" message?

What I'm saying is that I think it's immature for a company to fire someone from their job just because they have a different opinion outside unless it's really that serious that promotes bad things. Especially if such opinions were completely not effecting anyone's life (e.g. firing someone from their job for being an anime fan).
They may have the right, but that doesn't mean others can't complain.
I guess I just wanted to address this story because it seems worrying. :|

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Re: Why does Playtonic discriminate against political opinions?

Postby Rasmusic » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:54 pm

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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby Yavga » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:03 pm

I'm going to bed, savour the beer Andy. As everything is temporary.

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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby Omega » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:06 pm

I think they did the right thing. We as humans should promote kindness to one another, inclusion.

People saying they wont buy Y-L just because of this are just... *facepalm*

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