Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

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Postby Yoshi » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:41 am

@Taylor: I would suggest just one thing to give a better contrast, which I typically do when moderating a forum: Separate personal opinion posts and moderation acts. So, if need be, make one posting where you give your personal advice, and then immediately afterwards, make a moderation posting, where you say why you close the thread.

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Postby Yoshi » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:20 pm

Regrding the story about discrimination of women in technology, I had a funny encounter at a course I was responsible for. A woman who was taking the course was asking me, which additional exercise groups she could visit to repeat the content some more. It seemed a bit strange to me that she was visiting the same course several times, but I told her about all other groups. Turned out she already visited all groups given by men, but not those by women. She concluded she cannot visit any additional courses then, because "women cannot comprehend math". I think this was in particular funny, because my boss (who definitely is better than me and all my student tutors at the content of the course and math in general) is a woman and the student stating women cannot comprehend math was a woman herself...

In NeoGAF, there are some people who are making huge issues out of almost nothing, but to state on the other hand that discrimination does not happen is just not right either.

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Postby Savage Rodent » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:52 pm

Yooka-Laylee should be its own game with its own feeling. It shouldn't try to be like Banjo-Kazooie, it shouldn't try to be like Donkey Kong, it should be like Yooka-Laylee.


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Postby Yavga » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:28 am

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Postby Robobvious » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:20 am

So I know I'm late to the party on this but I only recently heard about it and decided I wanted to get my two cents in before the game comes out. While I don't agree with Jon's views at all, I do think it was pretty screwed up that they fired him over it. If Playtonic was based in America I actually think they would be legally culpable for infringing on his freedom of speech (unless they explicitly made him agree not to do as he did in a formal contract), but since they're not they're off the hook in that department.

I don't know, just seems like an overreaction on their part in that nobody is gonna go "Omg! Yooka-Laylee is rascist you guys!" because one guy who's tangentially related to its development kind of is. The truth is all big games are made by teams, teams with vastly different cultural, religious, and political beliefs. And just because one of the voice actors turned out to be bigoted doesn't mean the game is going to reflect that in any way. We know that.

Ultimately I feel it was a move motivated by political correctness and being "safe", and while it's sad that those are the views he keeps, he absolutely has a right to them. Thinking that we as the consumers can't tell the difference between the personal views of one employee and the official position of a multi-million dollar company is fairly insulting to our intelligence in my opinion.

Regardless, I look forward to the game. I don't want a refund and I'm not gonna start shouting boycott like the fanboys who stormed the steam discussion boards, truth is I think it will be a lot of fun. I just wish Playtonic had handled what happened a little bit differently, that's all.

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Postby Yavga » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:54 pm

*pewpew* shots were fired. Luckily we have bulletproof vests. Right... RIGHT?!?!
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Re: Jon Jafari (JonTron) and his role in Yooka-Laylee

Postby Savage Rodent » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:10 pm

I hate to give this thread some life, but I found out that Manveer Heir, the openly racist guy that worked at Bioware, wasn't fired and instead left the company. https://imgoat.com/uploads/9f0f895fb9/7490.png

So I guess I'm a little more upset about Jon's work being removed now. And it's just like what Jon said, nobody is getting fired over racism against white people. The unbelievable double standard that is going on is ridiculous.
Yooka-Laylee should be its own game with its own feeling. It shouldn't try to be like Banjo-Kazooie, it shouldn't try to be like Donkey Kong, it should be like Yooka-Laylee.


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